You chose to interpret that me pointing out the hardware is 8 years old meant I expected cutting edge technology, as if there wasn't 8 years oh hardware innovations in-between the hardware used and "cutting-edge technology". (The A720 and A510 are 4 years old, not exactly cutting-edge but would be a dramatic improvement)
There was nothing to extrapolate. I made a remark on the hardware, and you chose to view the world as black and white ("if he mentions the old age of the hardware he must necessarily expect the brand new cutting edge hardware and must not realize that small indie FOSS projects don't have the same resources as Apple").
Because both comments you quoted did not put words in my mouth like you did. They can laugh in iPhone all they want, they didn't say I expected iPhone performance out of this Linux phone. Same for the other comment, they're expressing their opinions, not projecting it on me.
You're the one being disingenuous, and I'm done exchanging with you.
They just made a comment that they're using fairly old chips. Nothing less, nothing more. You started adding stuff after that yourself. And now you're demanding they should have written a full detailed essay for you to not put words in their mouth? You're being obnoxious to the highest degree.
You could have just said "these low-volume devices are more expensive to make; they use older chips to maintain a somewhat affordable price because with cutting-edge tech it would be unaffordable", or something along those lines. There is no need to extrapolate anything and make assumptions about what expectations people may have.
You don't think it's obnoxious to aggressively put words in people's mouths and becoming even more aggressive and accusatory when getting some gentle "that's not what I said" pushback on that? Practically no one has an interaction like that and walks away with a positive experience. You can say "your comment would have been better without that remark, don't respond to a bad comment by making a bad comment". Okay, fine. I wouldn't even have responded. But it's really not the "obnoxious to the highest degree"-remark that's the core problem here, it's the "obnoxious to the highest degree"-behaviour. This is exactly how good (non-obnoxious) people stop coming back.
Even if all that is true, "you're being obnoxious to the highest degree" counts as name-calling in the sense that we use that term here and it's not a borderline call. You can make your substantive points without that kind of thing, so please do, regardless of how bad other comments are or you feel they are. Everyone always feels like the other person started it and did worse, so if we rely on those perceptions. we're guaranteed to end up in a downward spiral.
So you're fine with people being obnoxious assholes bullying people off the site with aggressive attacks as long as they're using nice language. Got it.
(and if your response to that is an annoyed "oh please, that's not what I said" – yes, that's my point)
Well, the CPU is OK for mobile, but the GPU/GPU-driver situation is not. Just look at the Pinephone to see a device with fine CPU performance that struggles with UI. Though, in fairness, some of this could be fixed with more optimized software.
Also still waiting for more userspace tools to support the v4l2-requests API for hardware video decoding.
And don't forget _overdimensioning_. Vendors love this because volume scales cubically with increase in any one of width, height and depth -- they're not the ones carrying the phone, but they can pack more features into one, quite literally. FOSS vendors more so since they need more ground to compete on (hardware being older and price being high enough because of economy of scale).
FOSS mobile hardware vendors already have a hard enough niche to target, "people who say they want small phones" is just fuel to the already burning fire for them. Each niche they add does not add the user base together, it multiplies the userbase percentages.
Its not the OSS nature. Any product from scratch will be expensive to start with and reduce in price eventually. There is a reason why Tesla didn't start with Model Y first.
Underspeccing is specific to mobile industry. But I agree with you here. Going for premium specs is a better way to start. But they'll have to pick a specs that works for them the company and can reach maximum people. So I also acknowledge that it's tough.
Looks inside
Still the good old A76 and A55 cores (they're 8 years old at this point)